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	<title>Comments on: 100% Open Source information cards, and how Ben might win an iPhone</title>
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	<description>&#34;I&#039;ve proven who I am so many times the magnetic strip&#039;s worn thin&#34; -- &#34;Pacing the Cage&#34; by Bruce Cockburn</description>
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		<title>By: http://jorgenaaroe.pip.verisignlabs.com/</title>
		<link>http://virtualsoul.org/blog/2007/09/28/100-open-source-information-cards-and-how-ben-might-win-an-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2998</link>
		<dc:creator>http://jorgenaaroe.pip.verisignlabs.com/</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing you could argue about is why MS made the CardSpace client platform centric. To my knowledge there is no way to run MS CardSpace client on Win XP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing you could argue about is why MS made the CardSpace client platform centric. To my knowledge there is no way to run MS CardSpace client on Win XP.</p>
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		<title>By: Did you build a Windows CardSpace enabled Website or application? - Secure Place</title>
		<link>http://virtualsoul.org/blog/2007/09/28/100-open-source-information-cards-and-how-ben-might-win-an-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2997</link>
		<dc:creator>Did you build a Windows CardSpace enabled Website or application? - Secure Place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a interesting discussion in the clouds. Based on Kim´s mind related to What if we fail, Dale Olds of Novell and Ben Laurie’s recent piece on CardSpace&#160;I decided to start the ultimate &quot;Show me [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is a interesting discussion in the clouds. Based on Kim´s mind related to What if we fail, Dale Olds of Novell and Ben Laurie’s recent piece on CardSpace&nbsp;I decided to start the ultimate &quot;Show me [...]</p>
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		<title>By: IdentityBlog - Digital Identity, Privacy, and the Internet's Missing Identity Layer</title>
		<link>http://virtualsoul.org/blog/2007/09/28/100-open-source-information-cards-and-how-ben-might-win-an-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2996</link>
		<dc:creator>IdentityBlog - Digital Identity, Privacy, and the Internet's Missing Identity Layer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 09:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] number of people gagged on this, including Dale Olds of Novell (who none the less retained his unflappable charm).  Dale had just released his new DigitalMe [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] number of people gagged on this, including Dale Olds of Novell (who none the less retained his unflappable charm).  Dale had just released his new DigitalMe [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Links &#187; More on Cardspace and Passport, or, A Day in the Life of an Open Source Developer</title>
		<link>http://virtualsoul.org/blog/2007/09/28/100-open-source-information-cards-and-how-ben-might-win-an-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2995</link>
		<dc:creator>Links &#187; More on Cardspace and Passport, or, A Day in the Life of an Open Source Developer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dale Olds is surprised. It seems mean to leave him in this state, though it seems somewhat ironic that an open source project should be choosing a thoroughly closed phone as a prize. So closed you can&#8217;t even install closed source add-ons. I&#8217;d rather have an N95, to be honest. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dale Olds is surprised. It seems mean to leave him in this state, though it seems somewhat ironic that an open source project should be choosing a thoroughly closed phone as a prize. So closed you can&#8217;t even install closed source add-ons. I&#8217;d rather have an N95, to be honest. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got to agree with Eric, the &quot;consumers of note&quot; (sounds like a band, doesn&#039;t it?) refers to RP&#039;s not users. It&#039;s RPs that &quot;consume&quot; identity data, not the entity being identified...

But Ben does get it wrong when he claims Microsoft as the IdP. It could be, of course, but it doesn&#039;t necessarily have to be. 

PS I tried to login with my OpenID(s) - they kept getting rejected with a redirect to an unkown page...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got to agree with Eric, the &#8220;consumers of note&#8221; (sounds like a band, doesn&#8217;t it?) refers to RP&#8217;s not users. It&#8217;s RPs that &#8220;consume&#8221; identity data, not the entity being identified&#8230;</p>
<p>But Ben does get it wrong when he claims Microsoft as the IdP. It could be, of course, but it doesn&#8217;t necessarily have to be. </p>
<p>PS I tried to login with my OpenID(s) &#8211; they kept getting rejected with a redirect to an unkown page&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Macehiter</title>
		<link>http://virtualsoul.org/blog/2007/09/28/100-open-source-information-cards-and-how-ben-might-win-an-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2993</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Macehiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also commented on this post here: http://www.mwdadvisors.com/blog/2007/09/rethinking-it-projects-think-service.html, primarily from the perspective of the Passport/Hailstorm versus Cardspace. I agree completely with your comments re Bandit/Higgins (not least because I logged into this site using DigitalMe on MacOS X :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also commented on this post here: <a href="http://www.mwdadvisors.com/blog/2007/09/rethinking-it-projects-think-service.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mwdadvisors.com/blog/2007/09/rethinking-it-projects-think-service.html</a>, primarily from the perspective of the Passport/Hailstorm versus Cardspace. I agree completely with your comments re Bandit/Higgins (not least because I logged into this site using DigitalMe on MacOS X <img src='http://virtualsoul.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Eric Norman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really think Ben means relying parties when he uses the phrase &quot;consumers of note&quot;.  He&#039;s British, so we might need to cut him some slack :) :) :)

As for Microsoft having control of user&#039;s identity information, he might be talking about user&#039;s perception instead of reality.  E.g. CardSpace is a Microsoft product; ergo, CardSpace is Passport with icons.  The folks best able to correct that misinterpretation would be Microsoft.

By the way, I did log on to make this comment using DIgitalMe.  It sure took a horrendously long time, though.  I&#039;m not sure why that is; it&#039;s never happened before.  Maybe it&#039;s just constipation in Utah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think Ben means relying parties when he uses the phrase &#8220;consumers of note&#8221;.  He&#8217;s British, so we might need to cut him some slack <img src='http://virtualsoul.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://virtualsoul.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://virtualsoul.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for Microsoft having control of user&#8217;s identity information, he might be talking about user&#8217;s perception instead of reality.  E.g. CardSpace is a Microsoft product; ergo, CardSpace is Passport with icons.  The folks best able to correct that misinterpretation would be Microsoft.</p>
<p>By the way, I did log on to make this comment using DIgitalMe.  It sure took a horrendously long time, though.  I&#8217;m not sure why that is; it&#8217;s never happened before.  Maybe it&#8217;s just constipation in Utah.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Jones</title>
		<link>http://virtualsoul.org/blog/2007/09/28/100-open-source-information-cards-and-how-ben-might-win-an-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2991</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to be a consumer of note too.  Please tell me how to sign up!

[This comment brought to you via Information Cards, Firefox, CardSpace, PamelaWare, WordPress, Windows, Linux, XML, HTTP, the Internet Protocol, and so much more... ;-) ]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to be a consumer of note too.  Please tell me how to sign up!</p>
<p>[This comment brought to you via Information Cards, Firefox, CardSpace, PamelaWare, WordPress, Windows, Linux, XML, HTTP, the Internet Protocol, and so much more... <img src='http://virtualsoul.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ]</p>
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